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what's in the shed?
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h***@buffalo.edu
2016-07-29 03:23:33 UTC
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Any thoughts? Guesses?

Some kind of inversion? (The Smiler)
A track drop? (13, Verbolten)
Video projections?
Other?
s***@aol.com
2016-07-29 04:01:13 UTC
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Inversion? No
Drop? Maybe, but I doubt it.
Video projection? Doubt it, but wouldn't rule it out completely.

Maybe it's just more a of a "roofed" area like on the Beast?
Marshall
2016-07-29 05:14:36 UTC
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The loading platform?

Can we just call this "Beastie" and get it over with?
Not impressed and theres no way in hell that POV shows 16 airtime hills. Way too much changing directions to get air.
w***@gmail.com
2016-07-29 11:39:56 UTC
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Post by Marshall
Not impressed and theres no way in hell that POV shows 16 airtime hills. Way too much changing directions to get air.
Not really a fan of inversions...so I am glad this coaster has none, but the POV looked average at best. Sure...speed, low hills, etc. means more air time, but all the hills seemed (on video) to be very similar (minus small directional changes). Still it is another coaster and a true wooden one at that...applause applause.
h***@buffalo.edu
2016-07-29 15:16:20 UTC
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Post by s***@aol.com
Inversion? No
Drop? Maybe, but I doubt it.
Video projection? Doubt it, but wouldn't rule it out completely.
Maybe it's just more a of a "roofed" area like on the Beast?
I'd think (hope?) there would have to be *something* special/significant/novel about the "shed", hence the hashtag and the hype.

What about something never done before. A stationary track segment that does a 360 "spiral" in place? It doesn't look like there is much room for a true inversion inside there, as you'd need a bit of speed to achieve it. The drop segment indeed seems unlikely as you'd require some change in elevation.

I'm fascinated by the prospects here, but hope not to be let down.
s***@hotmail.com
2016-07-29 12:03:57 UTC
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Post by h***@buffalo.edu
Any thoughts? Guesses?
Some kind of inversion? (The Smiler)
A track drop? (13, Verbolten)
Video projections?
Other?
In the shed are 2 lines of lumberjacks, each holding an axe and facing the train. Ominous music plays and the jacks lift their axes in the air, and their eyes glow red. Up ahead is a platform with the head lumberjack, who lifts his axe high into the air overhead, and the music reaches a climactic frenzy. He screams "Now you will pay!" Then you pass underneath the platform, make a left turn, and you're back in the station.
w***@gmail.com
2016-07-29 13:22:24 UTC
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In the shed are 2 lines of lumberjacks, each holding an axe and facing the train. Ominous music plays and the jacks lift their axes in the air, and their eyes glow red. Up ahead is a platform with the head lumberjack, who lifts his axe high into the air overhead, and the music reaches a climactic frenzy. He screams "Now you will pay!" Then you pass underneath the platform, make a left turn, and you're back in the station.
Source???
CanobieFan
2016-07-29 13:45:46 UTC
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It's a reference to Adventure Express's anti-climactic ending...
Boblogone
2016-07-30 14:41:51 UTC
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Post by h***@buffalo.edu
Any thoughts? Guesses?
Some kind of inversion? (The Smiler)
A track drop? (13, Verbolten)
Video projections?
Other?
It's a "car wash", never another stoppage due to protein spills.
skiguy777
2016-08-01 09:51:20 UTC
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Post by Boblogone
Post by h***@buffalo.edu
Any thoughts? Guesses?
Some kind of inversion? (The Smiler)
A track drop? (13, Verbolten)
Video projections?
Other?
It's a "car wash", never another stoppage due to protein spills.
I think it would be similar to Verbolten and hope it's not like 13 where the train just drops and then the ride ends. If they launch the train again I would at least hope for some floater hills. Verbolten launches the train, only to have it stop at the top of the hill for the river turn. So much energy is wasted doing that. These "shed" type elements really don't thrill me.

We could also put Fire Chaser in here, because that's in a shed as well. Wow, it stops, rumbles, then the train goes backwards to end the ride.
The problem is, the length of track after the shed is short. The train is launched but the next section track isn't that much as the ride ends.
k***@aol.com
2016-08-01 15:59:37 UTC
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Post by h***@buffalo.edu
Any thoughts? Guesses?
Some kind of inversion? (The Smiler)
A track drop? (13, Verbolten)
Video projections?
Other?
I think the Wyatt Family is in there. :-)

Ken
J H
2016-08-12 02:14:01 UTC
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Post by k***@aol.com
I think the Wyatt Family is in there. :-)
Ken
I'd settle for just finding Mark Wyatt in there. He still has my $20.
s***@aol.com
2016-08-12 02:25:21 UTC
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I subscribed to Inside Track and only got one issue before the paper disappeared.
GodsOnSafari
2016-08-12 04:02:03 UTC
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You can find him announcing for Philadelphia Flyers games, IIRC.
GodsOnSafari
2016-08-12 04:04:30 UTC
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Nevermind, he runs sound for the Phillies. Anyhow, another reason to trash that shitty team.
GodsOnSafari
2016-08-12 04:06:42 UTC
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Triple post!

https://www.facebook.com/mark.wyatt.75

Go bother him there. Doesn't seem like many people have.
Dave Althoff, Jr.
2016-09-24 03:22:46 UTC
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J H <***@gmail.com> wrote:
: On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 11:59:38 AM UTC-4, ***@aol.com wrote:
: >
: > I think the Wyatt Family is in there. :-)
: >
: > Ken
:
:
: I'd settle for just finding Mark Wyatt in there. He still has my $20.

Man, I need to come through here more often! 8-)

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Dave Althoff, Jr.
2016-08-02 02:47:30 UTC
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***@buffalo.edu wrote:
: Any thoughts? Guesses?
:
: Some kind of inversion? (The Smiler)
: A track drop? (13, Verbolten)
: Video projections?
: Other?

Consider that this IS Kings Island we are talking about.

Remember that this is a park known for generating hype about attraction
elements and then...well...you know. Remember Tomb Raider: The Big Secret?

I do like the animated lumberjack finish idea. I fully expect Mystic
Timbers to have a finish worthy of Adventure Express.

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2016-08-02 09:43:44 UTC
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It's not tall(but then again I'm a height junkie!), but from the
animated preview it seems one's butt won't be spending
much time against the actual seat.
Dave Althoff, Jr.
2017-05-20 16:35:06 UTC
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Back in August, I <***@davealthoff.com> wrote:
: ***@buffalo.edu wrote:
: : Any thoughts? Guesses?

: Consider that this IS Kings Island we are talking about.
:
: Remember that this is a park known for generating hype about attraction
: elements and then...well...you know. Remember Tomb Raider: The Big Secret?
:
: I do like the animated lumberjack finish idea. I fully expect Mystic
: Timbers to have a finish worthy of Adventure Express.

Okay, so it's higher tech than Adventure Express (and hence a whole lot
less complicated....), but I think that is a fair assessment.

I do think the show would be better if the bridge were wider, or even if
the right-hand wall of the bridge were angled to meet the shed wall. As it
is, the sight lines for the show element are terrible. Which is a shame,
because the show is very nicely done.

The good news is that the coaster is insanely great, and as a long-time
Kings Island visitor, I appreciate the way they incorporated the "Kings
Island Crawl"...

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s***@hotmail.com
2017-07-05 16:00:28 UTC
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Post by Dave Althoff, Jr.
: I do like the animated lumberjack finish idea. I fully expect Mystic
: Timbers to have a finish worthy of Adventure Express.
I do think the show would be better if the bridge were wider, or even if
the right-hand wall of the bridge were angled to meet the shed wall. As it
is, the sight lines for the show element are terrible. Which is a shame,
because the show is very nicely done.
Finally made it to KI on Friday to ride it. Between being in charge of a large event on KI opening day, then son Ben trying to finish up school for the year, then a home improvement project, it sucked all our weekends away.

Dave, you got it right the first time - it does have a finish worthy of AE. The sight lines in the shed are horrible if you are any further back than about row 3. And it's so, so lame. Really lame. Abominably lame. Really, the only thing they could come up with (on the show that we saw) were a bunch of vampire bats? We rode twice and got the same show both times. I'm assuming the comment about the show being nicely done is that you didn't get the vampire bats.

However, they have set themselves up with a show that can be changed to meet the season. I fully expect they'll have another version for the Halloween Haunt, and another (possibly, depending on if they run it) for Winterfest.

I love the first drop, which redeems the ending, and the coaster is fun to ride.

Park was pretty dead, which we were counting on. We rode MT twice, Diamondback, Backlot Stunt Coaster, Beast, White Water Canyon, Windseeker, Dodgems, Racer, and the Bat. All were walk-ons, except for a slight wait for front seat on Beast.

Sharon
Dave Althoff, Jr.
2017-07-18 02:33:02 UTC
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***@hotmail.com wrote:
: On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 12:38:30 PM UTC-4, Dave Althoff, Jr. wrote:
: > Back in August, I <***@davealthoff.com> wrote:
: > : I do like the animated lumberjack finish idea. I fully expect Mystic
: > : Timbers to have a finish worthy of Adventure Express.
: >
: > I do think the show would be better if the bridge were wider, or even if
: > the right-hand wall of the bridge were angled to meet the shed wall. As it
: > is, the sight lines for the show element are terrible. Which is a shame,
: > because the show is very nicely done.
:
: Finally made it to KI on Friday to ride it. Between being in charge of a
: large event on KI opening day, then son Ben trying to finish up school
: for the year, then a home improvement project, it sucked all our weekends
: away.
:
: Dave, you got it right the first time - it does have a finish worthy of
: AE. The sight lines in the shed are horrible if you are any further back
: than about row 3. And it's so, so lame. Really lame. Abominably lame.
: Really, the only thing they could come up with (on the show that we saw)
: were a bunch of vampire bats? We rode twice and got the same show both
: times. I'm assuming the comment about the show being nicely done is that
: you didn't get the vampire bats.

There are several shows. I always seem to get the damn snakes. The one you
want is the tree. You can tell when you stop in the shed which show you're
going to get. As I understand it, the show also has both day and night
versions.

: However, they have set themselves up with a show that can be changed to
: meet the season. I fully expect they'll have another version for the
: Halloween Haunt, and another (possibly, depending on if they run it) for
: Winterfest.
:
: I love the first drop, which redeems the ending, and the coaster is fun
: to ride.

The first drop is good, especially in the back of the train. The rest of
the ride, in accordance with The Way GCI Does Things, is beter up front.

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2019-06-27 13:07:28 UTC
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I finally got to ride this the past few days. First visit to Kings Island since 2015. Spent two days in the park, the first day, the ride was running, but the show elements were off for technical difficulties. Didn’t know this beforehand, got to the shed and nothing happened, just a screen that did nothing, wasn’t sure if that’s really what it was supposed to be. A friend confirmed that it’s supposed to be more, still didn’t want any spoilers (I had gotten this far without looking at anything, and still had another day at the park!). Luckily, the second day the show elements were back running. This included audio in the entrance/queue, lift and entering the shed (which were all off the first day). The shed itself was kinda neat, it’s basically a way to give the brake holding area something other than just sitting there. Not a bad idea. I rode three times that day, seemed to be the same each ride (snakes), which I’m seeing on this thread that there are different versions. Did I just get the same each time by chance or are they rotated between seasons? Or, because the show elements had technical difficulties the day before (and at least the day before that from what I saw online), maybe they only had one version running? Either way it was decent. Of the three rides the day the ashes was working, my first was in the front row, which is good for the side screen, but you move out before you really see the big snake appear on the main screen). Last two rides were toward the back, which you miss the side screen start, but get to see the entire large snake appearance.
The coaster part of the ride is excellent. Definitely one of the best GCIs I’ve been on. Assigned seating stinks though. Glad to see the park is back up to 4 wood coasters. This one is good, and probably my 3rd favorite coaster in the park, behind Beast and Flight Of Fear.
Dave Althoff, Jr.
2019-07-04 16:03:31 UTC
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***@aol.com wrote:
: I finally got to ride this the past few days. First visit to Kings Island
: since 2015. Spent two days in the park, the first day, the ride was
: running, but the show elements were off for technical difficulties.

I've never ridden it when the show elements didn't work. You've had a rare
experience!

: Didnâ??t know this beforehand, got to the shed and nothing happened, just
: a screen that did nothing, wasnâ??t sure if thatâ??s really what it was
: supposed to be. A friend confirmed that itâ??s supposed to be more, still
: didnâ??t want any spoilers (I had gotten this far without looking at
: anything, and still had another day at the park!). Luckily, the second
: day the show elements were back running. This included audio in the
: entrance/queue, lift and entering the shed (which were all off the first
: day). The shed itself was kinda neat, itâ??s basically a way to give the
: brake holding area something other than just sitting there. Not a bad
: idea. I rode three times that day, seemed to be the same each ride
: (snakes), which Iâ??m seeing on this thread that there are different
: versions. Did I just get the same each time by chance or are they rotated
: between seasons? Or, because the show elements had technical difficulties
: the day before (and at least the day before that from what I saw online),
: maybe they only had one version running? Either way it was decent.

There are three video programs, and I think four different songs on the
boom box. Each is rotated, and there is no connection between the music and
the video. So I think it's four of one and three of the other, so a total
of 12 different combinations.

Except that isn't quite true. There are actually six different videos,
because the videos exist in both daytime and nighttime versions; likewise
there are two different lighting programs (day and night). Rumor has it
that there may be a third lighting program that provides a 'special' show
which always accomanies the show featuring Norwood*, but I can neither
confirm nor deny that bit. I can tell you that if the 'blinder' light that
shines in your eyes while you are on the final brakes outside (that prevent
you from seeing into the shed while the show before yours is going on) is
white, you will be seeing a daytime show; if it is blue you will get the
nighttime show. I thought that the day/night mode was automatic based on
the time of day, but once I got a daytime show during Winterfest, which was
a bit of a surprise. You can also tell which of the three monsters you will
be seeing based on the door position. You want the shed doors to be closed
when you arrive, as Norwood is the best show.

: Of the three rides the day the ashes was working, my first was in the
: front row, which is good for the side screen, but you move out before you
: really see the big snake appear on the main screen). Last two rides were
: toward the back, which you miss the side screen start, but get to see the
: entire large snake appearance.

I really think the right-hand wall in the railroad bridge should have been
angled outward to meet the wall behind the desk and pop machine, just to
provide better sight lines for the big screen. And that presumably *is* the
bigger screen, as it has two converged projectors.

: The coaster part of the ride is
: excellent. Definitely one of the best GCIs Iâ??ve been on. Assigned
: seating stinks though. Glad to see the park is back up to 4 wood
: coasters. This one is good, and probably my 3rd favorite coaster in the
: park, behind Beast and Flight Of Fear.

Most definitely the best coaster in the park, in my opinion, and with the
demolition of both Screechin' Eagle and Villain, competes with Blue Streak
to be the best wood coaster in Ohio.

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* I keep hearing people refer to the monster as "Oakley". But I have a
friend who lives in Oakley, which is a nice neighborhood in Cincinnati
immediately adjacent to Norwood, which is a somewhat less nice neighborhood
in Cincinnati. He tells me that when anything good happens in the area, the
local media say it happened in Oakley, whereas if it is something
unpleasant, it happened in Norwood. Therefore if the creature is in fact a
monster, it would be far more appropriate to refer to him as "Norwood". So
far as I know he does not have an official name.

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2019-07-05 18:46:15 UTC
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Dave: thanks for that info! I don’t live anywhere near KI, but consider it my second favorite park after Kennywood (another park I live nowhere near). Hope to get back to visiting both of those on a more regular basis, and get to ride more variations of Mystic Timbers. I doubt I’ll ever get a night ride on it though, as I’m a big fan of night rides on the Beast and with the park closing at 10 in summer and it getting dark ridiculously late in that area (around 10!).
Ansley
2019-07-24 22:07:37 UTC
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Sadly, with the demise of Screechin Eagle, Big Dipper, and Villain... Mystic Timbers is clearly the #1 woodie in Ohio now.

Ted

s***@hotmail.com
2017-03-22 14:55:56 UTC
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Testing took place on Monday. This is all the footage that I think has been released to the media - it's the same on all sources that I've looked at.

http://www.wlwt.com/article/watch-kings-islands-mystic-timbers-makes-successful-first-run/9160088

Sharon Bond
s***@aol.com
2017-04-13 10:46:02 UTC
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The ride opens this weekend!
skiguy777
2017-04-13 14:50:12 UTC
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Post by s***@aol.com
The ride opens this weekend!
There's POVs going up. Midway Mayhem has one that shows what's in the shed.
Spoiler Alert.


This one stops at the shed.


It's really not much, but a nice holding area inside a building before returning to the station.

This ride is higher, and longer than InvadR at BGW. Here's the RCDB stats.
https://rcdb.com/14116.htm
3265 feet
109 feet tall
53 MPH

InvadR is 74 feet tall and goes 48 MPH. The Busch parks are really good at taking major thrill rides and nerfing them down to nothing. The other example of this would be Cheetah Hunt at BGT.

MT will probably win best new ride of the year.
skiguy777
2017-04-15 20:56:39 UTC
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Post by skiguy777
Post by s***@aol.com
The ride opens this weekend!
There's POVs going up. Midway Mayhem has one that shows what's in the shed.
Spoiler Alert.
http://youtu.be/GBtVnfODatc
This one stops at the shed.
http://youtu.be/A9jCo8iCtfU
It's really not much, but a nice holding area inside a building before returning to the station.
This ride is higher, and longer than InvadR at BGW. Here's the RCDB stats.
https://rcdb.com/14116.htm
3265 feet
109 feet tall
53 MPH
InvadR is 74 feet tall and goes 48 MPH. The Busch parks are really good at taking major thrill rides and nerfing them down to nothing. The other example of this would be Cheetah Hunt at BGT.
MT will probably win best new ride of the year.
4 hour waits going across to the building and up the midway to the opposite side of Diamond Back. Looks like the hype worked.

Or it could be that North East thing where no one has ever been on a GCI. Similar to what happened with Valravn when it comes to a dive machine.

Good job KI. Unless a foreign coaster takes it, MT will win the best new ride of the year, especially since most votes come from the North East.

I'll get to it next year when I fly into CMH and visit both parks, along with a separate to KD. 2018 is going to be great.
myselfalso
2017-04-16 15:26:01 UTC
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Post by skiguy777
Post by s***@aol.com
The ride opens this weekend!
There's POVs going up. Midway Mayhem has one that shows what's in the shed.
Spoiler Alert.
http://youtu.be/GBtVnfODatc
This one stops at the shed.
http://youtu.be/A9jCo8iCtfU
It's really not much, but a nice holding area inside a building before returning to the station.
This ride is higher, and longer than InvadR at BGW. Here's the RCDB stats.
https://rcdb.com/14116.htm
3265 feet
109 feet tall
53 MPH
InvadR is 74 feet tall and goes 48 MPH. The Busch parks are really good at taking major thrill rides and nerfing them down to nothing. The other example of this would be Cheetah Hunt at BGT.
MT will probably win best new ride of the year.
4 hour waits going across to the building and up the midway to the opposite side of Diamond Back. Looks like the hype worked.
Or it could be that North East thing where no one has ever been on a GCI. Similar to what happened with Valravn when it comes to a dive machine.
Go to Hershey. Problem solved.
d***@gmail.com
2017-04-17 02:21:57 UTC
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Go to Hershey. Problem solved.
Is Maryland not considered "The Northeast?" Roar is GCI.
w***@gmail.com
2017-04-17 14:55:04 UTC
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Post by myselfalso
Go to Hershey. Problem solved.
Is Maryland not considered "The Northeast?" Roar is GCI.
Nope...considered the South. The dividing line is the Pennsylvania/Maryland border
Marshall
2017-04-17 17:02:40 UTC
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Post by skiguy777
4 hour waits going across to the building and up the midway to the opposite side of Diamond Back. Looks like the hype worked.
Or it could be that North East thing where no one has ever been on a GCI. Similar to what happened with Valravn when it comes to a dive machine.
Good job KI. Unless a foreign coaster takes it, MT will win the best new ride of the year, especially since most votes come from the North East.
I'll get to it next year when I fly into CMH and visit both parks, along with a separate to KD. 2018 is going to be great.
4 hours is an understatement of the wait. The line wraps backwards thru Tomb Raiders old queue and then thru Slaughterhouses queue for Halloween and then out thru Beasts pre-queue...

Stupidity on KI's part, 1/2 the queue left when they announced inside Tomb Raider that the wait was still 3-3.5 hours from that point. All you have to do is post signage with wait times AND NOT HAVE A STANDBY queue thats longer than park hours for the GP to go do something else...
skiguy777
2017-04-18 00:33:30 UTC
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Post by Marshall
Post by skiguy777
4 hour waits going across to the building and up the midway to the opposite side of Diamond Back. Looks like the hype worked.
Or it could be that North East thing where no one has ever been on a GCI. Similar to what happened with Valravn when it comes to a dive machine.
Good job KI. Unless a foreign coaster takes it, MT will win the best new ride of the year, especially since most votes come from the North East.
I'll get to it next year when I fly into CMH and visit both parks, along with a separate to KD. 2018 is going to be great.
4 hours is an understatement of the wait. The line wraps backwards thru Tomb Raiders old queue and then thru Slaughterhouses queue for Halloween and then out thru Beasts pre-queue...
Stupidity on KI's part, 1/2 the queue left when they announced inside Tomb Raider that the wait was still 3-3.5 hours from that point. All you have to do is post signage with wait times AND NOT HAVE A STANDBY queue thats longer than park hours for the GP to go do something else...
That's because the Fastlane line is at 0. They're letting all those people through which makes the standby line longer than advertised. They're supposed to let everyone standing in line get their ride like they did with MF back in the day.
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2017-04-29 05:56:13 UTC
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:56:39 -0700 (PDT), skiguy777
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Post by skiguy777
Post by s***@aol.com
The ride opens this weekend!
There's POVs going up. Midway Mayhem has one that shows what's in the shed.
Spoiler Alert.
http://youtu.be/GBtVnfODatc
This one stops at the shed.
http://youtu.be/A9jCo8iCtfU
It's really not much, but a nice holding area inside a building before returning to the station.
This ride is higher, and longer than InvadR at BGW. Here's the RCDB stats.
https://rcdb.com/14116.htm
3265 feet
109 feet tall
53 MPH
InvadR is 74 feet tall and goes 48 MPH. The Busch parks are really good at taking major thrill rides and nerfing them down to nothing. The other example of this would be Cheetah Hunt at BGT.
MT will probably win best new ride of the year.
4 hour waits going across to the building and up the midway to the opposite side of Diamond Back. Looks like the hype worked.
Or it could be that North East thing where no one has ever been on a GCI. Similar to what happened with Valravn when it comes to a dive machine.
Good job KI. Unless a foreign coaster takes it, MT will win the best new ride of the year, especially since most votes come from the North East.
I'll get to it next year when I fly into CMH and visit both parks, along with a separate to KD. 2018 is going to be great.
Ohio isn't in the northeast.



"With the first link, a chain is forged. The first speech censured,
the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us
all irrevocably." -Capt. Jean-Luc Picard
"The Drumhead", _Star Trek: The Next Generation_
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