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El Toro partially derails...
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BaSSiStiStiSt
2021-06-30 05:55:15 UTC
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Oh, Intamin.
CanobieFan
2021-07-02 13:21:39 UTC
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Post by BaSSiStiStiSt
Oh, Intamin.
More like....

Oh, Six Flags <3
Bob Rahe
2021-07-08 15:27:56 UTC
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Oh, Intamin.
Anybody have an new info on this? I was at the park yesterday (7/7)
and none of the ops/etc. knew much. There were a number of people out
on the track looking to be doing some work but too far away to really
tell what. And some hammering noises from somewhere.

No visible damage from the distance (Zumanjaro's walkway.)

Anybody?
Surf Dance Chris
2021-07-09 14:25:13 UTC
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Oh, Intamin.
Anybody have an new info on this? I was at the park yesterday (7/7)
and none of the ops/etc. knew much. There were a number of people out
on the track looking to be doing some work but too far away to really
tell what. And some hammering noises from somewhere.
No visible damage from the distance (Zumanjaro's walkway.)
Anybody?
I don’t, but anyone know how long they expect the ride to be down? Is this a “won’t reopen until 2022 situation?
Tyler Eaves
2021-07-09 23:42:55 UTC
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I don’t, but anyone know how long they expect the ride to be down? Is this a “won’t reopen until 2022 situation?
Seems very possible, if there's any track damage. Since of course the prefab track can't really be repaired...
TheK-ManRocks
2021-07-09 15:21:34 UTC
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Oh, Intamin.
Anybody have an new info on this? I was at the park yesterday (7/7)
and none of the ops/etc. knew much. There were a number of people out
on the track looking to be doing some work but too far away to really
tell what. And some hammering noises from somewhere.
No visible damage from the distance (Zumanjaro's walkway.)
Anybody?
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It's park policy for frontline employees to reapond with
"I don't know", when asked about major rides issues by
members of the visitng public.

You might be able to speak with management directly by
inquiring at your parks Customer/Guest Services office, if such
exists.
Bob Rahe
2021-07-10 18:30:12 UTC
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Post by BaSSiStiStiSt
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Oh, Intamin.
Some more info, not much...


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Surf Dance Chris
2022-08-26 05:00:16 UTC
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El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.
Richard Bannister
2022-08-26 07:55:01 UTC
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El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.
I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.

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Doug Miller
2022-08-28 17:48:13 UTC
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Post by Surf Dance Chris
El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.
I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.
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Fair enough, but the question I would ask is “Does Intamin’s record merit concern?” To your point though, I think it’s safe to say that traditional wooden coaster construction is more appropriate for smaller installations, perhaps just a little over 100 feet tall.
TheK-ManRocks
2022-09-23 13:09:46 UTC
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Post by Surf Dance Chris
El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.
I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.
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www.superiorsolitaire.com
Fair enough, but the question I would ask is “Does Intamin’s record merit concern?” To your point though, I think it’s safe to say that traditional wooden coaster construction is more appropriate for smaller installations, perhaps just a little over 100 feet tall.
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Absolutely not.

I've rideen El Toro, and have ridden other woodies in its size
class. AAnd one thing that stuck out in my mind about ET is
the sheer dynamics of its program - very steep drops, and extreme
hill, and sharp rolling turns. All of these impose stress on even
a hybrid wood with steel frame, and might explain the recent history
of malfunctioning of this ride.

Such sudden changes in direction, in both the Y and X axes, stress
connecting points between track and structural members, and even
warp the gauge(width) of the track.


ET packs a lot of dynamic elements into a relatively small footprint
for a coaster of its height and size, and that is where I believe the
problems lay.
Surf Dance Chris
2023-01-21 03:32:55 UTC
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Post by TheK-ManRocks
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Richard Bannister
Post by Surf Dance Chris
El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.
I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.
-
www.superiorsolitaire.com
Fair enough, but the question I would ask is “Does Intamin’s record merit concern?” To your point though, I think it’s safe to say that traditional wooden coaster construction is more appropriate for smaller installations, perhaps just a little over 100 feet tall.
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Absolutely not.
I've rideen El Toro, and have ridden other woodies in its size
class. AAnd one thing that stuck out in my mind about ET is
the sheer dynamics of its program - very steep drops, and extreme
hill, and sharp rolling turns. All of these impose stress on even
a hybrid wood with steel frame, and might explain the recent history
of malfunctioning of this ride.
Such sudden changes in direction, in both the Y and X axes, stress
connecting points between track and structural members, and even
warp the gauge(width) of the track.
ET packs a lot of dynamic elements into a relatively small footprint
for a coaster of its height and size, and that is where I believe the
problems lay.
Any new news or updates about El Toro and it’s future?
Rik P
2023-06-12 01:37:48 UTC
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Any new news or updates about El Toro and it’s future?
El Toro has been testing.
Surf Dance Chris
2023-06-15 03:37:49 UTC
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Any new news or updates about El Toro and it’s future?
El Toro has been testing.
That’s a good sign! I heard that park has been struggling with its operations this season.
Surf Dance Chris
2023-06-17 02:21:28 UTC
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They announced recently it’s reopening tomorrow June 17!

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